Saturday, October 18, 2014

FWPD POLICE SCANDAL..

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An officer’s betrayal: Decorated black FWPD officer fights for job, reputation
Frost Editor | October 7, 2014
Fredrick Rogers
An officer’s betrayal: Decorated black FWPD officer fights for job, reputation
Son defends father’s service to department, community
Editor’s note: Over the years, Fort Wayne Police Officer Frederick “Fred” Rogers Sr. has earned a reputation as one of the city’s most well-known law enforcement officials. During his tenure in the Detective Bureau, Rogers compiled a stellar record of cases solved—particularly homicides. He’s also a familiar face throughout the black community providing security for various events and visiting dignitaries. He’s also won numerous law enforcement awards and accolades. Despite all his success, Rogers would admit that it hasn’t always been smooth sailing between him and the department’s upper echelon. He’s had to defend his work, record and reputation on a number of occasions, during which he said he’s been targeted unfairly for criticism and disciplinary action. Rogers is currently facing department actions against him for alleged “ghost employment.” His son, Fredrick Rogers Jr., wrote the following in his father’s defense.
By Fredrick Rogers Jr.
Special to Frost Illustrated
What began as a simple allegation of ghost employment now has a veteran police officer fighting for his career.
I have watched my father as I have grown up.  I have watched him undergo stress, and struggle with the job that he has worked for 33 years.  I am the oldest of his three sons and his namesake.
Fredrick Rogers Sr. joined the Fort Wayne Police Department in 1981 to make a better life for his family and to have a prideful, more challenging career.  But what he got instead has been a career filled with strife, backstabbing and a lack of support from his command.  We, his children have seen the community come together to support him.  He has long-standing relationships made from years of coaching Metro football, Village Woods baseball, Unique Track Club, and assistant track coach at Paul Harding High School.  He performed security jobs in Fort Wayne Community Schools and Anthis and various other establishments throughout the city.
It was this rapport that he has built through generations of citizens that has served him well in his contacts and cooperative support, whether it be Community Policing or a homicide investigation in which the citizens have come to rely on him. And they have appreciated his dedication and efforts, appreciation that he has never felt from the Fort Wayne Police Department.
And now I have seen with my very eyes the proof that the upper command of that department does not appreciate him.
My brother and I came from out of town to stand with him in support throughout his appeal before the Board of Safety, along with my sisters and the rest of the family, friends and co-workers of my father.  We have been told that in the past other police officers have been allowed to have open hearings but we were not allowed inside the hearing room.  Although it was of the understanding that there had been a “gag order” put into effect concerning the appeals hearing, (which was later lifted at the conclusion of the hearing), Sergeant James Seay of Internal Affairs (IA) approached me in the hallway before the hearing and asked me “if I knew who he was?” as if he was trying to get some sort of response out of me.  I remained neutral.  I did not know where he was coming from but I did not feel that it was from a good place.
You see, around the first part of May of this year, Sergeant Rogers was notified by Sergeant Seay of Internal Affairs of the Fort Wayne Police Department that he was being investigated for ghost employment, an administrative misdemeanor offense for allegedly overlapping work for city police with a  job at a local food restaurant.
An interview was conducted at which time Sergeant Rogers stated that he had not worked on the original two days in question (April 3, 4); another officer had worked for him.  That officer, when interviewed advised that he had worked for Sergeant Rogers, but was given dates other than April 3 and 4 when questioned and was answering off of memory.  Once he was able to check his phone records, however, the officer verified April 3 and 4 as when he had indeed worked for Sergeant Rogers.  At that point, Sergeant Rogers was notified by IA that he had been cleared of the ghost employment allegation.
The IA Department’s “investigation” consisted of speaking with a general manager of the food establishment over the phone who had never actually worked with Sergeant Rogers during his employment.  The hours that the general manager gave IA were not even the actual hours that Sergeant Rogers worked.  They also spoke with another manager, either on the phone or in person, who verified that Sergeant Rogers had not committed ghost employment.  However, Sergeant Seay decided not to utilize this manager’s statement, as he felt that this witness was lying.
On a later date, two FOP Representatives, Mitch McKinney and Rod Bradtmueller met with Chief of Police Garry Hamilton on Sergeant Rogers’ behalf, at which time they informed my father that he was to receive 180 days’ suspension and to be demoted from sergeant to patrolman, or he could retire and there would be no charges filed.  Sergeant Rogers informed the reps to notify Chief Hamilton that he would not accept either of the two choices.
Later still, Chief Hamilton asked to meet with the same two reps and Sergeant Rogers.  Also present was Assistant Chief Steve Reed.  At that time, Chief Hamilton presented Sergeant Rogers with documentation ordering him to be suspended for 180 days.  Sergeant Rogers refused to sign this, stating that he would be appealing the disciplinary action.
What a “coincidence” then, that on May 19, the disciplinary action stating that Sergeant Rogers received 180 days suspension and a demotion from sergeant to patrolman was found filed in his personnel file ANYWAY.  The only way it was found was because the FOP Rep had requested a copy of Sergeant Rogers’ personnel file.  The reason that was given by the chief of police as to how it made it’s way into  the file?  It got in there by mistake. ????!!!!!!
On May 30, all witnesses and persons involved in the investigation met with the three members of the Board of Safety.  The following next several paragraphs is what occurred during the Appeal before the Board of Safety:
The two employees of the food establishment gave statements that would indicate that Sergeant Rogers fulfilled his obligation of two hours of employment.  They informed the board that he would lock the doors at closing and if he had arrived late, he would return in the morning and make up the time to complete his two hours.  They further stated that the food establishment had no issues with my father’s  employment.
The City then called Cpt. Paul Smith who gave statements that would indicate that he had watched Sergeant Rogers while he was at this food establishment.  He stated that Sergeant Rogers would call on duty from this location and he had observed him sitting inside the establishment after 9:30 p.m.   Cpt. Smith is in Sergeant Rogers’ direct chain of command.  He was asked by the Board if he felt that Sergeant Rogers was wrong for remaining at the food establishment after 9:30 p.m., the time he was to be working for the City.  Cpt. Smith stated that he didn’t have a problem with Sergeant Rogers being at the food establishment. He stated that officers don’t have set times to eat; they eat when time allows.  He further stated that sergeants work under a different protocol than patrolmen; sergeants have more freedom of movement and are not held to restraints within their quadrants.
The City then spent the next hour explaining the Automatic Vehicle Locator (AVL) which simply is another name for a GPS. (The showing of how the system works didn’t have anything to do with the two days (April 3 and 4 being the only dates that Sergeant Rogers had been questioned about during his IA interview with Sergeant Seay.)
Chief Hamilton informed the Board that he and Sergeant Rogers were close friends and that he could tell when Sergeant Rogers was lying from the audible recording of the interview he had with Sergeant Seay. The chief also stated that their close friendship was the reason that he had felt compelled to offer Sergeant Rogers a 180 days suspension and demotion for his many years of service. The meeting was ended with the City having presented its entire case. All parties were to convene the following week at which time Sergeant Rogers and his attorney would present their case.
The following week, all parties were present.  Sergeant Rogers was instructed by his attorney to tell the Board who the “real Sergeant Rogers was,” which was totally different than that person that the City had described. Sergeant Rogers explained to the Board that Chief Hamilton had told an untruth himself when he stated that he and Sergeant Rogers were friends and that there were reasons for them not being friends. However, Sergeant Rogers explained to the Board that this was not the forum for that discussion, even though the Safety Director Rusty York, the City Attorney Tim Manges, as well as Chief Hamilton are all well aware of the reasons.  Sergeant Rogers further stated that he and the Chief are not friends; they don’t socialize together; he has never visited his home nor has he visited his. They have never ridden in the same vehicle nor sat down at the same dinner table together.
Chief Hamilton stated that during the previous week, he had reviewed Sergeant Rogers’ disciplinary record and afterwards felt that my father was unfit to be an officer or sergeant of the Fort Wayne Police Department and had nothing to offer the police department.
I wonder if the community feels the same way?  I think that they would wholeheartedly say otherwise.  There is no way to quantitatively or qualitatively measure just what Sergeant Rogers has meant to the City of Fort Wayne.  For the chief of police to form his mouth to glibly state in so much of a wanton manner that my father has nothing more to offer the department is the lowest form of disrespect that one can receive and I and the rest of the family take it as a personal affront upon our father because that summation was delivered with such egregiousness.
Sergeant Rogers asked the chief if it was fair to look only at an officer’s disciplinary record without looking at that officer’s accomplishments and awards.  He received no response.
Sergeant Rogers then attempted to give a presentation on the projector screen of the many accolades and awards he has received during his thirty three years as a Fort Wayne Police Officer.   (The Board cut my father off prior to his presentation being completed and he was not allowed to finish.) Sergeant Rogers has been a Hostage Negotiator, Voice Stress Examiner, Computerized Face Recognition Composite Drawer, SWAT Team Member, Financial Investigator, Bicycle Certified, and Lead Homicide Investigator from 1980-1988.   As a homicide detective, Sergeant Rogers had a solvability rating in the high 90 percentile range, a number that would rival ANY police department across the country as well as a MONUMENTAL difference when compared with the homicide solve rate of the last several years.
Sergeant Rogers made reference to the Ex-Chief Rusty York, who was present at both today’s and last week’s Appeal.  He gave examples of how Chief York had failed the City by not taking advantage of Sergeant Rogers’ knowledge and success as a Homicide Investigator to ask for his further assistance in more recent years as the homicides spiraled out of control.  Instead, his expertise was squandered as a sergeant.  Those talents could have been BEST utilized as a deputy chief in charge of Homicide, but Rusty York made the mistake not to place him as a resource that could have been a win for the Department, the community, and most importantly, the families of the homicide victims.
Sergeant Rogers’ attorney then called other employees of the food establishment to testify who gave statements that Sergeant Rogers was paid for services rendered and that the food establishment had no qualms with Sergeant Rogers about the hours he worked from October 2013 to April 2014.
Sergeant Rogers’ attorney closed out the Appeal before the Board of Public Safety stating that his client was an exemplary officer whose career is “being thrown away over charges that have not been proven”.
As stated earlier in this article, the gag order that was originally set at the Appeal hearing before the Board of Public Safety was lifted and that is why the information from that hearing is being referenced in this article.
One can only ask, then, from looking at all of the facts: is it personal, or is it professional past, bad blood that has been keeping the former and current Police Chiefs from doing right by my father?  Sergeant Rogers has been continuously overlooked in getting what is owed to him, by way of recognition, promotions, etc., but also for the overall good that HE has done or COULD have done for the police department and the community as well.
Sergeant Rogers continues to fight for his career as of the writing of this article.  He awaits the Board of Safety’s ruling, which will be rendered next month.  He is being supported by both the FOP and PBA. Councilman Glynn A. Hines has pledged his support, and the Reverend Michael Latham and other clergymen of Fort Wayne, as well as fellow black police officers called The Guardians of Police.
Could you keep Sergeant Rogers in your prayers?  He has given the City of Fort Wayne his own pound of flesh with blood, sweat and tears for the past 33 years.
You can show your support, either by contacting the mayor directly at (260) 427-1111 or on Facebook (city of fort wayne-municipal government) or visit http:www.cityoffortwayne.org/.
We need to hear from YOU!!!!!    THE COMMUNITY!!!!!
Thank you for your attention to this most urgent matter.
Sincerely,
Fredrick Rogers Jr.

Friday, October 3, 2014

DEPUTY SHERIFF GLADIEUX- DOMESTIC TERRORIST SUPPORTER

JOIN THE DOMESTIC TERRORIST CULTISTS!
DAVID GLADIEUX  DEPUTY SHERIFF IS A COMMITTEE MEMBER/SUPPORTER.





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The Allen County Right to Life Political Action Committee has endorsed local pro-life candidates prior to the May 6 primary election.
In some races, the PAC chose only one candidate and in others they chose both running for the post.
According to a press release, the group believes the following candidates, if elected, will be dependable voices on pro-life issues for their constituents:

  • Indiana Senate District 14: Dennis Kruse (R)
  • Indiana Senate District 15: Liz Brown (R)
  • Indiana House District 50: Dan Leonard (R)
  • Indiana House District 52: Ben Smaltz (R)
  • Indiana House District 79: Matthew Lehman (R)
  • Indiana House District 81: Martin Carbaugh (R)
  • Indiana House District 82: David Ober (R)
  • Indiana House District 83: Kathy Heuer (R) and Christopher Judy (R)
  • Indiana House District 84: Michael Barranda (R) and Bob Morris (R)
  • Indiana House District 85: Casey Cox (R)
  • Allen County Prosecuting Attorney: J. Michael (Mike) Loomis (R)
  • Allen County Sheriff: David Gladieux (R)
  • Allen County Assessor: Sam Walker (D)
  • Allen County Commissioner District 2: Therese Brown (R)
  • Allen County Commissioner District 3: Linda Bloom (R) and Roy Buskirk (R)
  • Allen County Council District 1: Kevin Howell (R)
  • Allen County Council District 2: Thomas (Tom) Harris (R)
  • Allen County Council District 3: Joel Benz (R), Tom Rotering (R), Gwendolyn (Gwen) Sordelet (R)

"The Allen County Right to Life PAC urges all pro-life Allen County voters to support our endorsed candidates," said Cathie Humbarger, Communications Director of the Allen County Right to Life PAC. "The right to life is nonnegotiable. Voters can use their ballot to advance protections for the most vulnerable among us, notably the unborn and the aged. These endorsed candidates value the right to life and they are our best hope for promoting a culture of life in government."
Allen County Right to Life PAC endorsed candidates based, in part, on surveys completed by the candidates.
To contact Niki Kelly email her at nkelly@jg.net or follow her on Twitter @nkellyatJG.






THIS IS WHAT THEY SAY- BUT THE RECORD OF THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT  
PROVES OTHERWISE:

About Us

ALLEN COUNTY RIGHT TO LIFE COMMITTEE, INC.

The members of this organization are united by a common concern for the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death. This concern is expressed particularly to reaffirm and to protect the right to life of all human beings, including, but not limited to: the unborn; the mentally ill or retarded; the “unwanted;” the physically handicapped; the aged; and the incurably ill.
-Cathie Humbarger, Executive Director

THREE RIVERS EDUCATIONAL TRUST FUND, INC.

Three Rivers Educational Trust Fund, Inc. was founded in December of 1982 to promote respect for life in Allen County through educational and charitable activities. We agree with the self-evident truth that every human person is endowed by their Creator with an unalienable right to life that must be defended. This principle leads us to promote a culture of life in our community, which we accomplish through projects and events in the social, religious, legal, medical, scientific and fields. We also believe that abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia are negative, violent and primitive responses to complex social problems that demand genuine compassion and rational, responsible thinking. Further, we denounce fetal stem-cell research and human cloning because they involve the willful destruction of human life. We reject the notion that society may destroy innocent life to solve any problem. Our approach has always been non-violent and legal
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IN RELATED NEWS:
GLADIEUX   AWARDED "COVETED PRO-LIFER/RIGHT TO LIFER ENDORSEMENT. A PRO LIFE SHERIFF. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? DOES IT MEAN IF HE HAS TO SHOOT SOME CRIMINAL SOB- HELL JUST TRY TO "WING'EM"- AS IN SOME JOHN WAYNE MOVIE?  
WE ALL KNOW COPS ARE KILLERS- AND SHOOT PEOPLE  IN THE "CENTER TARGET MASS"(  JUST LIKE AT THE SHOOTING RANGE.. 



Allen Right to Life PAC endorses 24

The Allen County Right to Life Political Action Committee announced Wednesday it has endorsed 24 candidates in the Nov. 4 election for federal, state, county and school board seats.
The PAC said in a statement the candidates would be “dependable voices on pro-life issues for their constituents.”
The list of endorsements includes 20 Republicans and Democrat Sam Walker, who is challenging incumbent Republican County Assessor Stacey O’Day.
The Right to Life PAC also endorsed three candidates for non-partisan seats on Allen County school boards.
Among the elected government offices where the Right to Life PAC made endorsements, only state lawmakers can revise laws and regulations affecting abortion services in Indiana.
Republican incumbents endorsed by the PAC include U.S. Rep. Marlin Stutzman in Indiana’s 3rd District; state Sen. Dennis Kruse in District 14; state Reps. Dan Leonard in District 50, Ben Smaltz in District 52, Matthew Lehman in District 79, Martin Carbaugh in District 81, David Ober in District 82, Christopher Judy in District 83, Bob Morris in District 84 and Casey Cox in District 85.
The PAC endorsed Republican incumbents Connie Lawson for Indiana secretary of state and Suzanne Crouch for state auditor.
Also endorsed were Allen County Republican Commissioners Therese Brown in District 2 and Linda Bloom in District 3 and GOP County Council members Kevin Howell in District 1 and Thomas Harris in District 2
Other endorsements included Republican candidates Kelly Mitchell for state treasurer, Liz Brown for state Senate District 15, David Gladieux for Allen County sheriff and Joel Benz for County Council District 3.
The PAC endorsed Richard Allgeier for East Allen Schools board and Tom Rhoades and Doug Copley for Southwest Allen County Schools board.


oh but it does- because these nut jobs/domestic terrorists are the backbone of support for the primary election BASE of the GOP/TEA- so once we discredit these wild eyed lunatics( think the arab equilavent of wild eyed fanatics)- then we cut the legs off their stool of support- the pro life nut jobs, the paranoid delusional gun nuts wing of the NRA; and the prohibitionist minded social conservatives. Mike huckabee recently said something to the effect that if the GOP doesnt stop its centrist drift- he was going to leave and take all his supporters with him. so- where will they go? not to the Democrats.. - so they start their own 3rd party- good luck with that- due to the laws put in place by the 2 partys to maintain their monopoly( technically a duo-opoly )(?) 
meaning- one we start killing off politically the republican partys lunatic fringe of vocal support- and muzzle them, and minimize their influence- maybe then we can get back to a left/right/centrist political system- and start making some bi-partisan laws, end gridlock, and maybe start getting something done for we the people of the USA- who are paying these folks salaries.. 
after all- we are in agreement- what does being pro-life have to do with many of the mostly clerical/admininstrative/bureaucratic local elected jobs anyway? and given the pro-lifers stance- that being"pro-life"( meaning "one of them"and donating cash, and support to THEM and their PAC- because afte all- no one is FOR ABORTION.. women and men just want the CHOICE as americans to not be forced to do something- its freedom from religion- separation of church and state- only theocracies behave that way..)- 
anyway- MY OPPONENT- Gladieux for Sheriff - is a board member of the local pro-life nut jobs, and is eodorsed by them- so whats that mean- that if he has to draw his gun and shoot someone- he will only "wing 'em"- like some john wayne movie? oh no- all cops shoot to kill- they are trained to aim right up the middle- at the heart- "center body mass"- google "police shooting range targets"- so see.
so - how does that equate with being PRO-LIFE? like he'll feel bad about it? have PTSD about it? rationalize that "well- a bad guy met a good guy with a gun?- DOES NOT COMPUTE.. AND- the sheriffs dept s jail- IS IT CERTIFIED by the 3 or 6 confinement/jail assoaications that accredit these jails? that the inmates are being treated in accordance with the Indiana constitution, the geneva convention for treatment of prisoners? the UN convention of human rights?- and so on? Jails are not supposed to be HOTELS- but nor are they supposed to be the GLADIEUX GITMO either.. 
I think the many grave errors made by the sheriffs dept over the years, their otal lack of transparency, and openess, and total lack of same by sheriffs candidate gladieux- whom i wont debate- because never debate someone who can have you arrested when leaving..- shows that change is needed- and im just the reform minded person the sheriff dept needs..
and lastly- the local newspapers and such- bring up the 9-1-1- dispatch and then declare the elction mission accomplished. wel- the 9-1-1 dispatch reforms have sat on a shelf collecting dust since 1996-fact check that- it was only since 2010- shortly before or after the may primary- in which i was previously a democrat nominee- that they dusted this NELSON PETERS MONEY PIT- off- and declared "mission accomplished ( just like george w bushs failed same statement..)- 
well- for years- i crowed about- well- let me get my little sledge hammer- and im happy to go to the city county blg basement- and bash out the windows separating their dispatch centers- like ronald ( yuck) reagan- nelson peters, sheriff fries- tear donw this wall- you can fact check THAT- in myhttp://roach4sheriff.blogspot.com/ posts from around that time frame.. 
should the SHERIFF CONTROL THE DISPATCH CENTER?- well- 1- the powers that be apparently dont want that- nelson peters wants his name to be a noun a verb, and 9-1-1- as his legacy- mr public safety- the heir apparent to sen wyss..- and 2- they wont provide the sheriff with the funds to do so- to run it properly; staff their dept and so on- and 3- as sheriff- i really wouldnt want the headaches and aggravation of it- theres some bugs, and i would cooperate as much as possible with former FWPD CHIEF YORK( FORMER)- (YCUK AGAIN..)- ending once more another source of INTER-GOVERNMENTAL BUREAUCRATIC CLUSTER F....K - 
so am i missing something? or are they trying to distract and redirect from my platform of CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM-that ending marijuana prohibition would save tax money, reduce crime( by its nature- you legalize something- you eliminate all the accompanying related crimes)- and mostly empty the ACJ jail- thus freeing up resources to re-direct towards more pressing pubnlic safety issues.. see? its simple- so why are the AUTHROITIES SO OPPOSED TO IT? well- as in watergate( or"cherrymaster-gate"-_ FOLLOW THE MONEY.. 
AND IN CONCLUSION- ERICK HECK DIDNT HAVE TO DIE IF IT WASNT FOR KEN WATSON GIVING THE SHOOTER THAT GUN WHICH HE GRABBED FROM SOME BOX IN THE SHERIFFS DEPT GUN BIN of guns to be melted in KEITH BUSSES SMELTING WORKS.. ( and hmm- do those guns et put into the melting pots by the sheriff? and watched to melt? or is it TRUST US. well- melt them donw?
DEPUTY GLADIEUX total lack of interest in better control of the local gun shows, and store- is a whole another speech.. 
a pattern of criminal negligence, and associating with domestic terrorist groups( pro lifers, and dangerous paranoid gun nuts..)-

Tuesday, September 2, 2014

NO SHIRT- NO SHOES NO GUNS- TROLLING THE GUN NUTS.

NO SHIRT, NO SHOES NO GUNS.. HOW DOES A BUSINESS OWNER KNOW IF THAT DUDE PACKING AN ASSAULT RIFLE ; ETC- ISNT THERE TO ROB HIM? SEE A GUN; CALL 9-11- AND LET THE COPS TAKE CARE OF IT.. im not a troll- i just think people like you are idiots.. and no- im not a "gun grabber"- im just not an NRA fanatical extremist.. AND IF YOU HAVE A GUN- keep it in your trunk; keep it out of sight- thats the smart thing to do.. peace!!
OPEN CARRY walks into a bank.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc
Scene from Movie Heat(1995) directed by Michael Mann;This is considered to be the best action scene on the history of american cinema...enjoy.
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  • Cat Ellis David, when I read that, this is what came to mind. "The Lady doth protest too much." That's Shakespeare. Hamlet. You might want to look up the play, since you likely won't get the reference.
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    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach au contraire, pierre..- I ve read shakespeare- my mom was an english major; and so ive had a basic knowledge; and i try to watch TV about shakespeare more than your average gun nut for example.. your comment is rather "obtuse"- could you please elaborate on your comment? im sincerely being positive here .. again- if you have a gun - keep it to yourself.. example open carry walks into a bar; a giant handgun in a visible holster- is just asking for trouble.. even citries in the "wild wild west- had a check your guns at the door; or no firearms allowed in city limits- yet no cowpunchers complained or ran to the supreme court; or the frontier judge.. and this movie scene- is just a perfect example of why we should limit military grade weapons to well vetted, well background checked people.. because guns dont kill people- people with m-16s and ak 47s kill people..
    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach keep your pistol in your purse, or garter, or bra; "miss kitty".. dont be waving it around "i am woman hear me roar"-
    • Cat Ellis Ok, since all of your extensive Shakespearean exposure leaves you failing to understand the reference, I would suggest you go ask your mother to explain it to you. Why would you wish to engage with those you consider to be idiots. Of course, your ignorance on "military grade" and "assault weapons" might betray you as the idiot.
    • Cat Ellis I'm sorry, but, I can't stop laughing... What on earth does your mom's education as an English Major have anything to do with anything? That's like saying, "I know how to perform surgery because my dad was a doctor."
    • Cat Ellis LOL Or what? You'll fall over in fear at the sight of it?
    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach IVE ALREAD HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN A PREVIOUS LIFE. I ADMIT- IM "TROLLING"- TO ANNOY THE GUN NUTS- not your sane sober rational suburban responsible wealthy responsible firearms owners, or the poor folks of similar "caliber( pun..)- 
      im referring to th
      e "gun-nuts"- the lunatic fringe unhinged paranoid conspiracy theorists who are up nights huddled in the dark corner, worried about "jack-bootedstorm troopers, mraps full of swat teams; black helicopters, drones, fema concentrationcamps and how the democrats are coming for their guns... again- keep your guns secured- dont be waving around your military grade assault weapons, or visible handguns and holsters- common sense- again says- why make yourself a target( ok-like im doing here? lol..- cant resist throwing rocks at the WASPS NEST. lol..) 
      and i agree that maybe women should have a small "miss kitty derringer, etc- for rape protection/prevention..
      walk into MY business packing heat; and ill infringe your gun rights in a second- hey dude- you cant bring that gun in here. im asking you to leave. now.. then ill be dialing 911..because if i dont see it; well- i dont know it, right? im an idiot- the village idiot savant..
    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach from my cold dead hands.-" you- in the building- were here for your guns.. "... tee hee.. see what happens?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWrmlIWb_w


      The best part in Terminator 2 with the Gatling Gun and the Explosive Shell launcher.
    • Cat Ellis LMBO.... Oh, thank you... I can't help it. You've provided a much needed laugh today. So for that, I do thank you. Nothing is funnier than a wackadoodle stomping and screaming that they aren't a wackadoodle. Your posts have been so over the top, and talking about firearms that your average gun owner cannot even possess without jumping through astronomical hoops and paying thousands of dollars to get a special license, etc. Your FEMA rant was priceless.
    • Cat Ellis Lehman, this is what I'm talking about. And now, you have to be a wealthy person in the suburbs in order to have the right to a gun. He's precious!
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    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach im a criminal- ill just go out and steal a minigun.. try to stop me. that was easy.. lol..
    • Cat Ellis LOL Keep going. Maybe post another movie.
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    • Lehman Zulufoxtrotgolf Shaw Minigun? Lame. Get a GAU-8 or gtfo.
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    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach hey- may i ask you - what skin color- are all these rapists; roving bands of marauding looters, Wayne La pieres "usual suspects"- who we need an arsenal of guns to protect ourselves from, anyway?- i suggest the NRA is a racist organization- without the hoods? ( and yes- im a "humorist/comedian, etc- do you think im funny? wackadoodle- aret those some kind of girl scout cookies? you DO know gril scouts are a leftist subversive organization; dont you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9rSwrsMHw


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    • Cat Ellis "I'm not a troll! I'm not a troll! I'm not a troll! Ok... I admit, I'm a troll." With material this silly, it may not even be fair to give him grief He seems limited.
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    • Cat Ellis The NRA is now racist? Ok, I fully admit that you have had me in tears laughing. But, I don't think it's the way a comedian would hope an audience would laugh. By the way, just so you don't bring this into your act, making like of rape isn't funny at all, considering 1 in 5 women are sexually assaulted in college. You are conflagrating rapists and race, not the NRA. Perhaps you're the racist? You have ceased to be amusing.
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    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach no- im saying women should be able to carry guns- like a wild west saloon girl; and for the same reasons as other "frontier women"- men havent changed.. as for your stats on rape- yes- NY DEMOCRAT SENATOR kirsten gillibrand- has been vocal about rape in the military, rape on college campuses; rape in general- which is why women demand access to abortions, birthcontrol etc- and guns..- im not joking about that-
      i suppose what im making fun of is tiny dicked middle aged white male conservatives, gun nuts; etc- who have to substitute their erectile dysfunction; and dysfuntions with women- by making themselves feel IMPOTENT/important- waving around assualt weapons like a bunch of wild eyed jihadist nut jobs- and putting the rest of us mostly pacifist normal citizens who keep our guns to ourselves- well concealed..- those are the knuckle heads im trolling.. as for the NRA being a bunch of racists- whos the ones all takling about 2nd amendment remedies; how much they hate our half black poresident; half black DOJ atty general; how we have to stop this immigration alien invasion at the obrder with our guns( and shoot unarmed women and children- mexicans; lations)- fleeing the same lunatic machismo gun culture of guns everywhere in central america- to get to America where we can all be free of this crazines? this madness? -
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    • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach again- i ask- what skin color are these marauding bands of roving looters? that the NRA FUHERE has you all in such fear of? the NRA was founded in 19\871- the same year the USGOVT wrote a bunch of anti-KKK anti terrorism laws- so they swapped their hoods and robes for slings and holsters instead?- youtell me?- WHITE MIDDLE AGE TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICA VOTING, RIGHT WING MEDIA FOLLOWING- FOX NEWS, THE USUAL GAS BAGS ON THE am RADIO; THE "VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY"- THE nra; THE RELIGIOUS RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST EXTREMISTS- AMERICAN ISIS- types- domestic terrorists- who hate that "muslim kenyan commie N---er" inthe WHITE HOUSE- YOU TELL ME- THE NRA ISNT RACIST?
  • Cat Ellis The only one who sounds like a nut here is you. Your caricature of gun owners is insulting, marginalizing, and based on your own prejudices, not reality. As far as racism, enough. It is 100% possible to dislike the president and the DOJ for their policies and actions, and not their skin color. I could not stand Bush. And I cannot stand Obama. Many of their policies have been in lock step. But, a great way to shut up your opposition is to accuse someone of being racist. and that is precisely what happens whenever Obama or Holder are criticized. It's an old, tired record.

    You keep slinging around words jihadist, and impotent, and nut jobs, ranting about people afraid of FEMA and aliens... You have done nothing here but exposed yourself as a narrow-minded, fear-based gun grabber, who apparently views white males as dysfunctional, violent, impotent scumbags just ready to go on killing sprees. Sir, you have a problem and its not with gun owners.
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  • David Legalize Marijuajuana Roach and your point is? 
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